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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Barastrondo" data-source="post: 5296077" data-attributes="member: 3820">This looks more like a "You can play to a set point limit instead of using a time limit. You are not playing basketball" claim to me. All due respect, but I find them quite equivalent claims. If a D&D game involves group play, combat, puzzle-solving, even resource management in the form of money, magic and experience, and yet the characters' motivations are romance-based and the setting is more romantic in theme, the fundamental flow is not affected in a profound way. It's affected in a minimal way at best, no more profound than the difference between a party picking serious in-character names and personae and the difference between a party comprised of "Piggly Wiggly," "Kevin J. Ambrosius Ninja III," and "Sir Loin of the Twelve Ounces."  There are ways to play D&D as a romance game that do affect "the fundamental flow," yes. But not all of them do. The most famous romantic play in history is full of swordfights. A tremendous number of gamers look at The Princess Bride as relevant to, even worthy of emulation in gaming. The only flow that could be disrupted by any interpretation of "romance game" would have to be so narrow and restrictive that it really describes a personal table style more than "the game." And that's little different than a personal table style that mandates beholders.Now I'm a believer, but I'm not a fundamentalist. Rules are there to provide consistent and impartial judgment when it's necessary. Everything else can be summed up with Old Geezer's oft-quoted description of the old, old Lake Geneva playstyle: "We made up some [excrement] we thought was cool." I guess the spirit of that guideline got lost in translation along the way when more people taught themselves to roleplay out of books instead of learning from other people. And tournament play may have changed things when it emerged, since you had the social dynamic of playing with strangers crop up more often. But honestly, if you're playing with friends and making up crap you think is cool? That is the heart of the game. Everything else is just barracks-room lawyering.</blockquote>

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