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<blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 539721" data-attributes="member: 5171"><p>A few months ago, I was DMing an odd sidelight of our normal game, where disruptions to the timestream were causing some PCs to never have been born. Each time a PC vanished, I handed the player a new character who had, in the new timeline, joined the party. By the end of the night, only two increasingly panicked characters were originals -- and they had the memories of their old allies, and were desperately trying to get them back.</p><p></p><p>Each "new" character was 10th level, usually single classed, with really nice items. They were created using 32 point buy, and each one had at least one ability score below 10.</p><p></p><p>At one point, the player who had been given a fighter with a high intelligence but a wisdom of 8 said to the rest of the group, in-character, "Look, I don't have any opinion about this. You know, being wise, Wisdom-type stuff... that's not really my thing."</p><p></p><p>I swear to God I could have just strangled him.</p><p></p><p>That was his version of roleplaying, of NOT metagaming. He thought he was being good by not just telling people his scores. Instead of making any bad decisions, he opted not to decide, telling everyone that he didn't have the wisdom to do so.</p><p></p><p>For crying out loud, do you know anybody who you consider to be of below-average Wisdom who THINKS that he has below-average Wisdom?</p><p></p><p>Something like 85% of people asked said that they had an above-average sense of humor.</p><p></p><p>Everyone goes through times of thinking that they are shy and stupid around people, as well as times when they feel "on" and are really wowing their friends or the crowd.</p><p></p><p>Everyone has boneheaded moments, but nobody thinks, "Gosh, my intelligence is not as high as the average person."</p><p></p><p>In short, barring spellcasters who need scores to cast spells, the average character should NOT always be aware of his own stats, even if the player is. In fact, even an Int13 Wizard might just think, "I have a hard time with these incantations, but other than that, I'm a bloody genius. I mean, I got that Fireball off, didn't I?"</p><p></p><p>Consider this an argument toward NOT letting people swap stats in character AT ALL unless those stats are easily demonstrable.</p><p></p><p>-Tacky</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takyris, post: 539721, member: 5171"] A few months ago, I was DMing an odd sidelight of our normal game, where disruptions to the timestream were causing some PCs to never have been born. Each time a PC vanished, I handed the player a new character who had, in the new timeline, joined the party. By the end of the night, only two increasingly panicked characters were originals -- and they had the memories of their old allies, and were desperately trying to get them back. Each "new" character was 10th level, usually single classed, with really nice items. They were created using 32 point buy, and each one had at least one ability score below 10. At one point, the player who had been given a fighter with a high intelligence but a wisdom of 8 said to the rest of the group, in-character, "Look, I don't have any opinion about this. You know, being wise, Wisdom-type stuff... that's not really my thing." I swear to God I could have just strangled him. That was his version of roleplaying, of NOT metagaming. He thought he was being good by not just telling people his scores. Instead of making any bad decisions, he opted not to decide, telling everyone that he didn't have the wisdom to do so. For crying out loud, do you know anybody who you consider to be of below-average Wisdom who THINKS that he has below-average Wisdom? Something like 85% of people asked said that they had an above-average sense of humor. Everyone goes through times of thinking that they are shy and stupid around people, as well as times when they feel "on" and are really wowing their friends or the crowd. Everyone has boneheaded moments, but nobody thinks, "Gosh, my intelligence is not as high as the average person." In short, barring spellcasters who need scores to cast spells, the average character should NOT always be aware of his own stats, even if the player is. In fact, even an Int13 Wizard might just think, "I have a hard time with these incantations, but other than that, I'm a bloody genius. I mean, I got that Fireball off, didn't I?" Consider this an argument toward NOT letting people swap stats in character AT ALL unless those stats are easily demonstrable. -Tacky [/QUOTE]
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