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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8216149" data-attributes="member: 93670">I thought about saying this in reply to that same post from [USER=6803664]@ccs[/USER] last night but couldn't decide if he was using sarcasm to play devils advocate & give an example of those players or voicing actual outrage so left it.  Whatever his goal, the sympathy and attaboys it garnered shows why it's so difficult to address as a gm without coming off as the bad guy so I went back through old conversations to find an example from one of these problem players.In this case the players asked me to send out the doc when the campaign  old wrapped up before the new one started so they could plan a bit for session zero. Everyone was sent the same rules for character creation and house rules that would be used in the next campaign after one ended (this was precovid) and minus the expletives I got this back after sending it to everyone via the group chat we used for organizing and "bob are you on your way?" type stuff"####### dont call me out on the last part of the group patrons thing it makes me sound like an #######".   The whole doc was about a page and pretty reasonable stuff like we are playing in this setting these sources are allowed use these stats tiny hut is a tent etc... the part he found so objectionable & slanderous was this.[spoiler="no doubt an example of totally unreasonable overreach from a massively imposing DM "]"Group Patrons will be used.  The group will choose a patron during session zero.  Players will choose one as a group & their background will be tied to that patron rather than some divergent side quest they really want to leave the group to accomplish but never do because… reasons."[/spoiler]</blockquote>

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