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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1399222" data-attributes="member: 5890">Typically if you make a game-breakingly min-maxed build in 3rd ed, it'll take you quite a bit of effort.Slapping together something horrendous in a point-build system such as skills and powers is significantly easier. This isn't just the case with skills and powers, it's a systemic problem with point-based character generation.Perhaps building a too-powerful character is a bit silly though - maybe he won't get the point.Maybe you should just build a character that's centred around all the confusing and conflicting rules in 2nd ed.Or better still, make one which would be insane under 2nd ed, but works a lot better under 3rd.Example - a flying thief. A swoop (or whatever they call in in 2nd) attack does double damage, and a sneak attack does up to quintuple damage. Under 2nd ed rules, you're not left with a lot of options beyond "just multiply it all out", ending up with x10 damage. Under 3rd ed rules, you end up with x6 damage, not that much more than the initial backstab.Try to save people from death using the healing proficiency. Since you need to get to them within one round, you'll have a really really hard time. Point out 3rd ed's "bleeding to death" rules.Use save-and-take-20-damage-or-don't-and-die poisons. Attempt to craft things. Try to get in contests where the DM needs the actual statistics of monsters (ie - str, con, wis etc). Let off fireballs indoors and say "oops" when you wipe out the entire dungeon. Better still, let off a fireball right on the entrance of a dungeon and try to work out how big the blast is. Get skill checks above 20, then try things which should be near-impossible with them. Craft items as a high level cleric (for free!).Point out how much better the 3rd ed rules are in all of these respects.</blockquote>

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