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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 1399849" data-attributes="member: 4134">And what about fighters? Rogues? IMO in D&D everyone should have a chance against everyone else (when they're on the same level). This is not rock-scissors-paper. We don't play Cleric-Wizard-Fighter.Not really. I open the Cleric spell list and see lots of good spells for a pacifist cleric.You did say that people become clerics now to be better warriors. You're right, that was a bit harsh. Sorry. Was a bit wound up.But fact is, there are dozens of ways to make a character of any class unique. This is especially true for the four "base base classes" - fighter, rogue, wizard, cleric, but works well for the other classes, too. And it isn't just an opinion because I have seen such characters. I've seen a couple of wizards, and they were vastly different. I've seen fighters with completely different fighting styles. I've seen rogues fill a myriad of roles (most of them were my own character - I love the rogue), and seen clerics that you wouldn't associate with the same class if you didn't see it written on the sheet.I'm not really saying that your creativity sucks. I just suspect you aren't trying too hard. Just take a look at the cleric spell list, at the skills and feats that could help such a character, and at the PrC's out there, and you'll see that you can create perfectly good pacifists in 3e. And combat clerics, and caster clerics, and archer clerics, and necromancer clerics.....</blockquote>

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