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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hawken" data-source="post: 4827133" data-attributes="member: 23619">This is easy.For problems 1 and 2: Talk with them about these points the next time you get together and play. Tell them that these problems are killing your enjoyment and unless it changes, you're going to find a different group to play with. Point out that you would be glad to hang out with them and joke around, have fun or whatever at other times (if that is true), but when you get together for D&D, you want to play it, not goof off. If they say you're being to whiny or something, point out that as the DM, you have to put in extra work on the games that they don't (it IS possible they don't realize this) and it makes you feel like you're wasting your time when they goof around after the hours you've spent preparing for the game.For problem 3, that's on you. Your house rule sucks. The PHB rules that its only a move action, not a full round action to retrieve a stored item. Why are you penalizing them this way over something that is kind of trivial anyway? Its not making the game better or run any smoother which is kind of the purpose of a house rule anyway. Choosing 4 items is just more paperwork, more accounting to keep track of and doesn't do anything to improve the game. I'm with your players on this one. One suggestion about house rules, is that no matter how good you think it is, you need to run it by your players first and find out if they are willing to try it out. Playing a game where you are telling them, "ok, guys, it works like this now" and forcing a bass-ackward rule on them is a sure way to get them to passively (goofing off at your game) or directly (get pissed off and team up on you) let you know they don't like what you're doing. I suspect this is as much (or more) on you than it is your players. But if your players are just being jerks, then find others to game with.</blockquote>

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