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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7792606" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>With a pickup group in a one-shot, zero tolerance doesn't work. Most players will have been trained by previous DMs to ask to make ability checks. I make some effort to train them out of it, but have no expectation that it will happen over the course of one session.</p><p></p><p>In my Tables Rules document, I tell players not to ask questions that can instead be actions and not to ask to make ability checks. Sometimes they slip, and that's okay. I'll just ask them what they're trying to do and how they're trying to do it. Because I can't adjudicate fairly (as I see it) without that information. Not without making assumptions about or establishing for the player what the character is doing which I want to avoid.</p><p></p><p>With my regulars, I am less forgiving because they know better. A question or ask to make an ability check is going to get them made fun of. But then, I have also explained to them - as I have in my original post - why it's just not a good idea at all to <em>want</em> to roll. And they've internalized it so it's not really an issue.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In many ways, yes. But some things would be glaringly different. I have a good laugh with some regular players who jump into one-shots with other groups and they complain like crazy in Discord about the number of questions the pickup group is asking instead of actually doing stuff. It's like once it's pointed out, you can't unsee it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7792606, member: 97077"] With a pickup group in a one-shot, zero tolerance doesn't work. Most players will have been trained by previous DMs to ask to make ability checks. I make some effort to train them out of it, but have no expectation that it will happen over the course of one session. In my Tables Rules document, I tell players not to ask questions that can instead be actions and not to ask to make ability checks. Sometimes they slip, and that's okay. I'll just ask them what they're trying to do and how they're trying to do it. Because I can't adjudicate fairly (as I see it) without that information. Not without making assumptions about or establishing for the player what the character is doing which I want to avoid. With my regulars, I am less forgiving because they know better. A question or ask to make an ability check is going to get them made fun of. But then, I have also explained to them - as I have in my original post - why it's just not a good idea at all to [I]want[/I] to roll. And they've internalized it so it's not really an issue. In many ways, yes. But some things would be glaringly different. I have a good laugh with some regular players who jump into one-shots with other groups and they complain like crazy in Discord about the number of questions the pickup group is asking instead of actually doing stuff. It's like once it's pointed out, you can't unsee it. [/QUOTE]
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