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<blockquote data-quote="jayoungr" data-source="post: 7793110" data-attributes="member: 6702445">But if that doesn't upset me, then there's no reason to try to avoid the situation.In my experience, asking to roll often happens when players/PCs are poking at a situation to figure something out.&nbsp; It's not that they have a clear goal in mind that they will be upset about not making; it's that they want to interact with parts of the situation and see what happens.Sure, but the surprise--the random element--is part of what makes it fun.Also, you're approaching this from the point of view of asking &quot;Give me a strong reason in favor of rolling dice.&quot;&nbsp; On the other hand, I (and, I think, quite a few others on the thread) approach it more with the attitude of &quot;There's no strong reason not to roll the dice.&quot;Apologies if this sounds harsh, because I truly don't mean it that way, but I somewhat get the feeling you are frustrated because others on this thread are not having that &quot;light bulb&quot;--that you think if you just explain it clearly enough, we'll see it your way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jayoungr, post: 7793110, member: 6702445"] But if that doesn't upset me, then there's no reason to try to avoid the situation. In my experience, asking to roll often happens when players/PCs are poking at a situation to figure something out. It's not that they have a clear goal in mind that they will be upset about not making; it's that they want to interact with parts of the situation and see what happens. Sure, but the surprise--the random element--is part of what makes it fun. Also, you're approaching this from the point of view of asking "Give me a strong reason in favor of rolling dice." On the other hand, I (and, I think, quite a few others on the thread) approach it more with the attitude of "There's no strong reason [i]not[/i] to roll the dice." Apologies if this sounds harsh, because I truly don't mean it that way, but I somewhat get the feeling you are frustrated because others on this thread are not having that "light bulb"--that you think if you just explain it clearly enough, we'll see it your way. [/QUOTE]

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