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Message: <blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7793164" data-attributes="member: 6919838">Sorry but, how? If the key to insight and figuring out if the guy is being deceptive is me the player figuring it out * myself* from what the character says and how the GM says it - that's not my character being good as that's on me and the GM. Now, of course, passive scores and auto-success levels apply.In my game, if your characters got a proficiency and the DC is 10 or less without disad, you get success, no roll. So, during or after the exchange I would just say "it's obvious to you they are..." even if I tried to make it obvious. Similar if its a situation where passive skill applies, I wont SK for a roll, just give you the results as statement at the right time for the scene.Competence of the character comes out of their capabilities and them getting into play, not the player-gm sparring. It's to me about the character vs the NPC, not me vs the gm, even if I got a better chance in the latter fight.</blockquote>