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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7793645" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>It's the fact that you are looking, and expecting, the player to come up with that narration that gives me pause. Since the DM is always on the look for the players to "describe their actions" but, when actually questioned about it in a real circumstance, I get nothing but the run around and no one can seem to actually give me an example of what would constitute a "narration". </p><p></p><p></p><p> Fair enough. For me, I see it as simply driving the players away from the skill system entirely and into the hands of the casters since the players don't need to satisfy any requirements from the DM in order to use their spells.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, you are ignoring a direct quote from the PHB. The PHB SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT using Insight to determine if someone is lying. It's RIGHT THERE in the book. So,, yes, you are ignoring the direct quote from the PHB and YES [USER=97077]@iserith[/USER] is still ignoring that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, see the problem is, every time this subject comes up, you folks sound EXACTLY like those DM's. The DM's who feign obtuseness in order to "engage with the fiction", who insist that the game should be run THIS way because THAT'S WHAT THE RULES SAY. The DM's who, when actually questioned, cannot actually answer anything specific, but, instead throw up walls of bafflegab and misinterpretations in order to avoid ever actually coming out and saying anything. </p><p></p><p>If it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7793645, member: 22779"] It's the fact that you are looking, and expecting, the player to come up with that narration that gives me pause. Since the DM is always on the look for the players to "describe their actions" but, when actually questioned about it in a real circumstance, I get nothing but the run around and no one can seem to actually give me an example of what would constitute a "narration". Fair enough. For me, I see it as simply driving the players away from the skill system entirely and into the hands of the casters since the players don't need to satisfy any requirements from the DM in order to use their spells. Yes, you are ignoring a direct quote from the PHB. The PHB SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT using Insight to determine if someone is lying. It's RIGHT THERE in the book. So,, yes, you are ignoring the direct quote from the PHB and YES [USER=97077]@iserith[/USER] is still ignoring that. Yeah, see the problem is, every time this subject comes up, you folks sound EXACTLY like those DM's. The DM's who feign obtuseness in order to "engage with the fiction", who insist that the game should be run THIS way because THAT'S WHAT THE RULES SAY. The DM's who, when actually questioned, cannot actually answer anything specific, but, instead throw up walls of bafflegab and misinterpretations in order to avoid ever actually coming out and saying anything. If it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck... [/QUOTE]
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