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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 7793810" data-attributes="member: 3400">For some people, the way they play, casting a Protection from Evil and Good would be more or less begging the question. The player already knows it'll work and &quot;experimenting&quot; with casting that spell is something they already know the likely outcome to - and they reject that as metagaming. That's part of the point of Hussar going to his DM with a sidebar. He wants to avoid doing that kind of metagaming. Plus, it's not so much playing the PC as it is playing yourself and your previous experiences with the game rules. When you're at that point, there's little point to having knowledge skills as a savvy player can always come up with a justification for the PC knowing what the player knows.I think Hussar's objections are a bit overblown, but there have been other people on these boards over the years who have similar issues of &quot;playing the DM&quot; rather than playing their characters. Given previous posts, I think it's clear it comes, at least in Hussar's case, from a long history of dysfunctional games due to DM issues. That said, iserith's responses are about as unyielding in really engaging in Hussar's points as Hussar is in giving way. It's probably better to just leave it all be.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="billd91, post: 7793810, member: 3400"] For some people, the way they play, casting a Protection from Evil and Good would be more or less begging the question. The player already [B]knows[/B] it'll work and "experimenting" with casting that spell is something they already know the likely outcome to - and they reject that as metagaming. That's part of the point of Hussar going to his DM with a sidebar. He wants to [B]avoid[/B] doing that kind of metagaming. Plus, it's not so much playing the PC as it is playing yourself and your previous experiences with the game rules. When you're at that point, there's little point to having knowledge skills as a savvy player can always come up with a justification for the PC knowing what the player knows. I think Hussar's objections are a bit overblown, but there have been other people on these boards over the years who have similar issues of "playing the DM" rather than playing their characters. Given previous posts, I think it's clear it comes, at least in Hussar's case, from a long history of dysfunctional games due to DM issues. That said, iserith's responses are about as unyielding in really engaging in Hussar's points as Hussar is in giving way. It's probably better to just leave it all be. [/QUOTE]

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