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<blockquote data-quote="Imaculata" data-source="post: 7794872" data-attributes="member: 6801286">I think that is a strange way to describe what I did. I told them that they might fall if they fail their check, they took a precaution, which I informed them would make their descend easier as long as they rolled well... and they rolled poorly, but still made it down safely initially, which was a surprise to them. But that was merely because they rolled well on their climb check. So even though the rope was unreliable, their climbing ensured a safe descend.It's when they started taking more risks, that it came back to bite them. I wouldn't call that lying, I would call it a surprise that they should have seen coming. It would not have happened if they continued descending one by one. And on top of that I offered them a way to save their falling companions, and save them they did.Yes I did. I told them that they could fall to the razor sharp rocks below, especially if they rolled poorly, which they did. But I don't have to tell them 'how' the rope will fail.They rolled well on their climb: They decend succesfully on their own, even with an insecure rope.They rolled bad on their use rope: The rope fails eventually, due to the stress of too much weight.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaculata, post: 7794872, member: 6801286"] I think that is a strange way to describe what I did. I told them that they might fall if they fail their check, they took a precaution, which I informed them would make their descend easier as long as they rolled well... and they rolled poorly, but still made it down safely initially, which was a surprise to them. But that was merely because they rolled well on their climb check. So even though the rope was unreliable, their climbing ensured a safe descend. It's when they started taking more risks, that it came back to bite them. I wouldn't call that lying, I would call it a surprise that they should have seen coming. It would not have happened if they continued descending one by one. And on top of that I offered them a way to save their falling companions, and save them they did. Yes I did. I told them that they could fall to the razor sharp rocks below, especially if they rolled poorly, which they did. But I don't have to tell them 'how' the rope will fail. [B]They rolled well on their climb:[/B] They decend succesfully on their own, even with an insecure rope. [B]They rolled bad on their use rope:[/B] The rope fails eventually, due to the stress of too much weight. [/QUOTE]

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