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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7796976" data-attributes="member: 6919838">&quot;So yes, the rules are, and I will quote them so you can see that it's not just an interpretation, &quot;Only call for a roll if there's a meaningful consequence for failure.&quot; DMG page 237. That an unambiguous, absolute statement.&quot;Wow, that's about as obvious a case of bad actor as I have seen. You actually cut from my quote the rest of the sections where I discussed that very part of the DMG and the paragraph it is in and the context that brings thst makes it far from unambiguous and then went with that statement. Literally the next sentence, the first you cut&nbsp; was started with &quot;In the DMG on ability checks...&quot;That is incredible.Just to add to save anyone the need to look that up, that rule applies to cases like walking across a floor or ordering an ale where there is no reason to call for a check of reference to character stats - as the paragraph it is in is talking about. The actual broader rule for when to call for l a check is in the next paragraph on page 237 and is that there is a chance of failure and a chance to succeed. No &quot;meaningful consequence&quot; required.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7796976, member: 6919838"] "So yes, the rules are, and I will quote them so you can see that it's not just an interpretation, "Only call for a roll if there's a meaningful consequence for failure." DMG page 237. That an unambiguous, absolute statement." Wow, that's about as obvious a case of bad actor as I have seen. You actually cut from my quote the rest of the sections where I discussed that very part of the DMG and the paragraph it is in and the context that brings thst makes it far from unambiguous and then went with that statement. Literally the next sentence, the first you cut was started with "In the DMG on ability checks..." That is incredible. Just to add to save anyone the need to look that up, that rule applies to cases like walking across a floor or ordering an ale where there is no reason to call for a check of reference to character stats - as the paragraph it is in is talking about. The actual broader rule for when to call for l a check is in the next paragraph on page 237 and is that there is a chance of failure and a chance to succeed. No "meaningful consequence" required. [/QUOTE]

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