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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 5610130" data-attributes="member: 29398">Interesting thread...[MENTION=2425]Gentlegamer[/MENTION] - there were options for crit-hits presented for 1e in Dragon and (if memory serves) for 2e in the RAW.[MENTION=4937]Celebrim[/MENTION] - both as player and DM, I can't imagine being in a game run as tightly as yours.  Different style, perhaps; I'm a bit more laid back.  That said, having played loads of 1e and several years worth of 3e (mostly with subsets of the same player group so that's not really a variable) I can say with certainty that after about 3rd level - assuming much the same party fighting much the same foes - 3e combats start to take much longer than 1e combats.  Why?  Buffs for one; and players like me being unwilling to memorize what a bunch of feats do for another.Both systems had crits and fumbles and both re-rolled init. each round (the 3e group have gone to rotating init's since I left, media coverage tells me it hasn't sped things up much) so there's not much variability there either.  Both systems also use aiming rolls for spell effects; again, no variance.[MENTION=55966]ferratus[/MENTION] - a better test might be to try using minis in 2e as well, see if that makes any significant difference to combat length.  If nothing else, you'll have a better comparison with 3e and 4e as the mini/non-mini variable will be removed.And no matter how tough a DM is, as long as she's fair and the players are having fun there's no problem.  That said, I strongly encourage all true Viking-Hat RBDMs to run systems that feature fast character generation - it just works better that way. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Lan-"kill 'em all and let the paper shredder sort 'em out?"-efan</blockquote>

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