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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 5610894" data-attributes="member: 463">In 1e-2e though, higher level PCs hardly ever failed save or die effects.&nbsp; Even at moderate level, bonuses from a save-boosting item made saves pretty trivial.&nbsp; It was only with 3e that save-or-die became threatening to PCs above low level, IME.&nbsp; It's something I dislike about C&amp;C actually, it has saves which scale with level, making PCs subject to random death any time.Really high level 1e-2e PCs not only saved on a '2', they often had other items like rings of spell turning, amulets of life protection, and stuff granting Magic Resistance, to give further protection.&nbsp; They tended to become very robust.Edit:&nbsp; I dislike Ear Seekers &amp; random magic death traps though, so although there was plenty of PC death IMCs it wasn't quite as random as that.&nbsp; I started my main AD&amp;D campaign at 3rd level and AIR there were 28 PC deaths in the first adventure, Irillian from White Dwarf.&nbsp; But by the time the PCs were ca 7th level they were only dying to ridiculous stuff like jumping into the middle of the enemy army solo.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 5610894, member: 463"] In 1e-2e though, higher level PCs hardly ever failed save or die effects. Even at moderate level, bonuses from a save-boosting item made saves pretty trivial. It was only with 3e that save-or-die became threatening to PCs above low level, IME. It's something I dislike about C&C actually, it has saves which scale with level, making PCs subject to random death any time. Really high level 1e-2e PCs not only saved on a '2', they often had other items like rings of spell turning, amulets of life protection, and stuff granting Magic Resistance, to give further protection. They tended to become very robust. Edit: I dislike Ear Seekers & random magic death traps though, so although there was plenty of PC death IMCs it wasn't quite as random as that. I started my main AD&D campaign at 3rd level and AIR there were 28 PC deaths in the first adventure,[I] Irillian[/I] from White Dwarf. But by the time the PCs were ca 7th level they were only dying to ridiculous stuff like jumping into the middle of the enemy army solo. [/QUOTE]

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