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<blockquote data-quote="Haffrung Helleyes" data-source="post: 4210320" data-attributes="member: 1068">He isn't a half caster...his spell progression is better than a ranger or paladin, and more importantly, a lot of key enchantment spells (Tasha's , Confusion, Charm Monster for example) show up a level earlier than a wizard.&nbsp; As well, he has access to a bard only feat, captivating melody, that lets him increase his enchantment DC by two for a use of bardic music (a pittance).&nbsp; So, assuming he takes this feat, he can easily keep up with a wizard on DCs for enchantment spells, taking the other DC increasing feats as well.&nbsp; I don't see why a DC22 confusion spell can't be competitive.&nbsp; A DC22 will save is not going to be trivial to make for most opponents.&nbsp; And that's with just a plus two cloak of charisma.It's true that you should focus on buffing the party as well, though I would take the party composition into account -- there isn't much point in you taking haste if the sorcerer has it.I completely agree with mistwell with regard to ranged attacks.&nbsp; You have other options that are more valuable to the party; let the fighter and the rogue and the wizard do the damage.Ken</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Haffrung Helleyes, post: 4210320, member: 1068"] He isn't a half caster...his spell progression is better than a ranger or paladin, and more importantly, a lot of key enchantment spells (Tasha's , Confusion, Charm Monster for example) show up a level earlier than a wizard. As well, he has access to a bard only feat, captivating melody, that lets him increase his enchantment DC by two for a use of bardic music (a pittance). So, assuming he takes this feat, he can easily keep up with a wizard on DCs for enchantment spells, taking the other DC increasing feats as well. I don't see why a DC22 confusion spell can't be competitive. A DC22 will save is not going to be trivial to make for most opponents. And that's with just a plus two cloak of charisma. It's true that you should focus on buffing the party as well, though I would take the party composition into account -- there isn't much point in you taking haste if the sorcerer has it. I completely agree with mistwell with regard to ranged attacks. You have other options that are more valuable to the party; let the fighter and the rogue and the wizard do the damage. Ken [/QUOTE]

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