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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jodasi" data-source="post: 659542" data-attributes="member: 2600">spelll casters??? I have tried that already. He tells me that we have 3 spell casters alread... cleric, druid, ranger. Albeit, the ranger has one spell i think at fifth level.I tried getting him to let me me play a mage. he said he prefered not.One thing that he hints at is items becoming magical on their on thru use. We are at fifth level now, and I asked how long it is going to take in levels, from now, and he said it takes a long time before it happens.I am still looking for a solid argument explaining why dnd3rd edition breaks down with out the pluses to defense at highter levels. Maybe some one from WOTC can explain it in a note?joel/jodasi@hotmail.com</blockquote>