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<blockquote data-quote="BSF" data-source="post: 1772979" data-attributes="member: 13098">Huh.&nbsp; Well, this is BS.&nbsp; I doubt people would argue that there haven't been charismatic, yet somewhat unpleasant, folks throughout history.&nbsp; Yet the other players have tried to make a stereotype out of your PC and are now complaining because you are living up to it.In my experience, the other players around the table are not very enthusiastic to see a high Cha character played as overly assertive.&nbsp; They want them to be likable and smiling happy people holding hands.&nbsp; Let's face it, there are far more people out there with high Cha that lead because they project such self-assurance that others can't help but to want to follow their lead.&nbsp; One perfectly legitimate way to project Cha is to have somebody that is outwardly self-assured and self-confident. (Regardless of what they feel internally, this is how they appear to others.)&nbsp; These people get away with making snide comments and running rough shod over everyone else because people are willing to forgive them these &quot;flaws&quot;.&nbsp; Whether that is because the charismatic individual must surely be right, or is so strong a leader that such flaws can be overlooked, or just because you don't want to be the next target of the individuals scathing comments is hardly relevant.&nbsp; The point is that many, many people will overlook the disadvantages of an overbearing personality because of the advantages.&nbsp; They are charismatic and when you need something done by somebody else, the people with leadership qualities make sure it gets done.&nbsp; There are many ways to play a high Cha.&nbsp; To talk of docking your score when you play one that is less than pleasant is certainly your DM's perogative, but that doesn't mean it is a strong reflection on how high Cha could be portrayed.Your group wanted to stereotype your PC.&nbsp; You responded by filling that stereotype.&nbsp; They don't like it.&nbsp; Tell them to ease off the bitch comments and you will stop playing one.&nbsp; But do it nicely.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> BTW - As somebody that plays a character with a 23 Cha, I feel your distress.&nbsp; My character is eventually going to unite most of the good peoples of the world to fight evil.&nbsp; He will do that through any means at his disposal.&nbsp; He knows he is right.&nbsp; Sometimes that assurance bleeds over in ways that his fellow PCs don't necessarily like.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BSF, post: 1772979, member: 13098"] Huh. Well, this is BS. I doubt people would argue that there haven't been charismatic, yet somewhat unpleasant, folks throughout history. Yet the other players have tried to make a stereotype out of your PC and are now complaining because you are living up to it. In my experience, the other players around the table are not very enthusiastic to see a high Cha character played as overly assertive. They want them to be likable and smiling happy people holding hands. Let's face it, there are far more people out there with high Cha that lead because they project such self-assurance that others can't help but to want to follow their lead. One perfectly legitimate way to project Cha is to have somebody that is outwardly self-assured and self-confident. (Regardless of what they feel internally, this is how they appear to others.) These people get away with making snide comments and running rough shod over everyone else because people are willing to forgive them these "flaws". Whether that is because the charismatic individual must surely be right, or is so strong a leader that such flaws can be overlooked, or just because you don't want to be the next target of the individuals scathing comments is hardly relevant. The point is that many, many people will overlook the disadvantages of an overbearing personality because of the advantages. They are charismatic and when you need something done by somebody else, the people with leadership qualities make sure it gets done. There are many ways to play a high Cha. To talk of docking your score when you play one that is less than pleasant is certainly your DM's perogative, but that doesn't mean it is a strong reflection on how high Cha could be portrayed. Your group wanted to stereotype your PC. You responded by filling that stereotype. They don't like it. Tell them to ease off the bitch comments and you will stop playing one. But do it nicely. :) BTW - As somebody that plays a character with a 23 Cha, I feel your distress. My character is eventually going to unite most of the good peoples of the world to fight evil. He will do that through any means at his disposal. He knows he is right. Sometimes that assurance bleeds over in ways that his fellow PCs don't necessarily like. [/QUOTE]

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