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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 1773100" data-attributes="member: 5834">reI play a Sorcerer with a 29 Charisma (Magic augmented of course) who is a raving psychotic. When anyone questions the high charisma, I tell them that the force of his personality is such that many people believe his madness. I cannot personally pull off the persuasive manner in which he speaks as I do not have a 29 charisma. Just imagine an extremely persuasive madman with great force of personality.Having a high charisma doesn't mean you have to be nice. It just means that when you are rude, people really take note (sounds like they have, good job). No listens to a rude person with a low Charisma because they don't have the force of personality to make rudeness noticeable. You are like the jerk at a party or social gathering who really knows how to get under people's skin and has the personality and verbal skills to make others look like fools in public.I have no idea why people think having a high Charisma requires being polite, nice, or good looking. There are many ways to converse. Being rude, impolite, flippant, or megalomaniacal all require a high charisma as well. D&amp;D may not take it into account, but you should be able to apply your Charisma as a negative social penalty if you wish. It takes just as much Charisma to be rude, impolite, flippant, or megalomaniacal well as it does to be persuasive or diplomatic.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 1773100, member: 5834"] [b]re[/b] I play a Sorcerer with a 29 Charisma (Magic augmented of course) who is a raving psychotic. When anyone questions the high charisma, I tell them that the force of his personality is such that many people believe his madness. I cannot personally pull off the persuasive manner in which he speaks as I do not have a 29 charisma. Just imagine an extremely persuasive madman with great force of personality. Having a high charisma doesn't mean you have to be nice. It just means that when you are rude, people really take note (sounds like they have, good job). No listens to a rude person with a low Charisma because they don't have the force of personality to make rudeness noticeable. You are like the jerk at a party or social gathering who really knows how to get under people's skin and has the personality and verbal skills to make others look like fools in public. I have no idea why people think having a high Charisma requires being polite, nice, or good looking. There are many ways to converse. Being rude, impolite, flippant, or megalomaniacal all require a high charisma as well. D&D may not take it into account, but you should be able to apply your Charisma as a negative social penalty if you wish. It takes just as much Charisma to be rude, impolite, flippant, or megalomaniacal well as it does to be persuasive or diplomatic. [/QUOTE]

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