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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ConcreteBuddha" data-source="post: 199753" data-attributes="member: 3139">Using just the big three core rulebooks with a single class monk? Well, the only feats a monk would ever conceivably take: Alertness, Blind-Fight, Combat Reflexes, Dodge, (Mobility, Spring Attack), Endurance, Expertise, (Imp. Disarm), Great Fortitude, Imp. Critical, Imp. Initiative, Iron Will, Leadership, Lightning Reflexes, MWP, PBS, (FS, PS, RS), Power Attack (Cleave, Improved Bull Rush, Great Cleave), Quick Draw, Skill Focus, Toughness, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus Optimizations:A) High Dex/WisB) High Str/Con 1) Unarmed2) Monk Weapon3) Javelin4) Projectile Weapon5) Reach WeaponA1, A2 = Weapon Finesse, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, Expertise, Imp. Disarm. (The last two with UA only if the Double-Handed Disarm from the Sword and Fist is in effect.)B1, B2 = Power Attack, Cleave, Imp. Bull Rush, Great Cleave, Expertise, Imp. Disarm. (The last two with UA only if the Double-Handed Disarm from the Sword and Fist is in effect.)A3, B3 = Quick Draw, PBS, RS, PS, FSA4 = MWP (Composite Bow), PBS, RS, PSA5, B5 = MWP (Glaive), Combat Reflexes, Expertise, Imp. Disarm..I have actually found that with A1 and A2, I would rather have Iron Will, Great Fortitude, Lightning Reflexes, Leadership, Blind-Fight, or Weapon Focus than the Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack route. A4 is only available if the character has access to a GMW spell. Let's just say that B5 is really neat, as monks gain Imp. Trip as a free feat at 6th level and the monk can still attack with the normal progression of his BAB with his UA (feet)...Obviously, monks with OA rules are more interesting than monks without. But the vanilla monk doesn't have to be high Dex/Wis, Spring Attack monk just to be effective... You do realize that Sneak Attack only applies to the first shuriken thrown in the round, right? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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