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<blockquote data-quote="DMZ2112" data-source="post: 8916072" data-attributes="member: 78752">In a weird, exhausted way I am deeply grateful to you for acknowledging this.Dammit, not this again.&nbsp; We were so close.It is absolutely up to the player.&nbsp; I've never in my life told a player what spells to memorize unless they've asked for guidance, as either a dungeon master or as a fellow player.&nbsp; If I saw my players doing this, I would criticize them for it.&nbsp; Have done, come to think of it.It's not about players or dungeon masters dictating other PCs' actions, it's about players circumscribing their own actions at the expense of their fellow players.So no, it is not appropriate (or cooperative) for anyone to tell the cleric to memorize Animate Dead because the group needs it.But if the group needs Animate Dead, and asks the cleric to memorize it, and the cleric refuses, YES, that's uncooperative behavior.Now, your clever use of Animate Dead has made me realize there are clear exceptions.&nbsp; If the cleric is a Life or Light cleric, the party shouldn't ask, because expecting a cleric to anger their god and give up their powers is itself uncooperative. And by extension, a Death cleric shouldn't be asked to heal, either.&nbsp; But that's a solitary, isolated case.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DMZ2112, post: 8916072, member: 78752"] In a weird, exhausted way I am deeply grateful to you for acknowledging this. Dammit, not this again. We were so close. It is absolutely up to the player. I've never in my life told a player what spells to memorize unless they've asked for guidance, as either a dungeon master or as a fellow player. If I saw my players doing this, I would criticize them for it. Have done, come to think of it. It's not about players or dungeon masters dictating other PCs' actions, it's about players circumscribing their own actions at the expense of their fellow players. So no, it is not appropriate (or cooperative) for anyone to tell the cleric to memorize Animate Dead because the group needs it. But if the group needs Animate Dead, and asks the cleric to memorize it, and the cleric refuses, YES, that's uncooperative behavior. Now, your clever use of Animate Dead has made me realize there are clear exceptions. If the cleric is a Life or Light cleric,[I] the party shouldn't ask, [/I]because expecting a cleric to anger their god and give up their powers is itself uncooperative. [B] And by extension, a Death cleric shouldn't be asked to heal, either.[/B] But that's a solitary, isolated case. [/QUOTE]

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