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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8495145" data-attributes="member: 7032025">That was only with rigid DMs who did not allow you to do a little backtrack and a few changes as long it did not become an optimising game in itself (which thankfully, we only had one case of, kicked out of our tables). Especially if you allowed for new supplements along the way (our main campaign lasted 10 years), or played prestige classes like "orders" that you needed to be accepted into.That's the kind of stupid restrictions bought about by rules which prevent fun when playing. I understand that some people like optimising, but this has never been the intent of the game, which is playing it with friends. If that kind of optimisation prevents you from actually enjoying the game when you play it, I find it really really sad.</blockquote>