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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8496761" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>Since AD&D1e was published <em>after </em>I was born, unlikely. Unless you have a time machine. In which case, use it for something other than reading D&D books before I was born, okay?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Shockingly, you can optimize with rolled stats. And also shockingly, people don't cheat <em>just </em>because you don't like their stats. And also shockingly, you can <em>very easily </em>optimize from rolling dice. In fact, one of the reasons why many people <em>don't </em>like rolling dice is because it's so easy to optimize that way--and that even with rolling 3d6 down the line, you can get incredibly high stats. More so when you can roll 4d6 drop the lowest and assign.</p><p></p><p>Heck, I knew a guy in college who--when watched, using other people's dice, even just dropping the dice instead of trying for a fancy roll--would always get high stats, like nothing lower than a 13 and usually higher. He would get high stats when he used a random number generator. He would get high stats when he made Deadlands characters and drew cards that other people had shuffled and were holding, like mostly face cards and spades. He was just amazingly lucky when it came to random generation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You <em>can't </em>forbid people from optimizing. You're not the God of Gaming. But <em>you </em>are telling others how to play their game and <em>you </em>are looking down your nose at people who aren't playing the way you prefer. You don't recognize the hypocrisy here?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Many of your posts in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/no-more-humans-in-funny-hats-racial-mechanics-should-determine-racial-cultures.682105/" target="_blank">this thread.</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe you haven't looked hard enough. I've encountered very few people like that myself, and never in real life. Nobody in my group refuses to "less optimal" combos.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Dude, so many of your posts recently has been that people are playing it against the way it was "intended" to be played. That is <em>literally </em>telling people that they're playing it wrong. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I <em>have </em>read the rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8496761, member: 6915329"] Since AD&D1e was published [I]after [/I]I was born, unlikely. Unless you have a time machine. In which case, use it for something other than reading D&D books before I was born, okay? Shockingly, you can optimize with rolled stats. And also shockingly, people don't cheat [I]just [/I]because you don't like their stats. And also shockingly, you can [I]very easily [/I]optimize from rolling dice. In fact, one of the reasons why many people [I]don't [/I]like rolling dice is because it's so easy to optimize that way--and that even with rolling 3d6 down the line, you can get incredibly high stats. More so when you can roll 4d6 drop the lowest and assign. Heck, I knew a guy in college who--when watched, using other people's dice, even just dropping the dice instead of trying for a fancy roll--would always get high stats, like nothing lower than a 13 and usually higher. He would get high stats when he used a random number generator. He would get high stats when he made Deadlands characters and drew cards that other people had shuffled and were holding, like mostly face cards and spades. He was just amazingly lucky when it came to random generation. You [I]can't [/I]forbid people from optimizing. You're not the God of Gaming. But [I]you [/I]are telling others how to play their game and [I]you [/I]are looking down your nose at people who aren't playing the way you prefer. You don't recognize the hypocrisy here? Many of your posts in [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/no-more-humans-in-funny-hats-racial-mechanics-should-determine-racial-cultures.682105/']this thread.[/URL] Maybe you haven't looked hard enough. I've encountered very few people like that myself, and never in real life. Nobody in my group refuses to "less optimal" combos. Dude, so many of your posts recently has been that people are playing it against the way it was "intended" to be played. That is [I]literally [/I]telling people that they're playing it wrong. I [I]have [/I]read the rules. [/QUOTE]
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