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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9526634" data-attributes="member: 6801845">If it's gamified then I'm thinking of the metagame not how my character would handle the situation.&nbsp; I go into boardgame logic mode instead of RP mode.&nbsp; If I earn tokens or influence points for scoring certain political wins, if I know what my political standing is with every group because there's the equivalent of a scoreboard it's not nearly as engaging.&nbsp; It's the issue I had with some DMs that overused (and were not flexible with) skill challenges in 4E.&nbsp; Too many times it felt like there was no need for me to interact with the campaign world, I would just figure out what choice made the most sense mathematically.If you don't get that I don't know how else to explain it.I know how people interact.&nbsp; I can model political intrigue and mysteries based on books I've read, movies or TV series I've enjoyed, not to mention real life politics.&nbsp; I would have no way of knowing how to resolve combat without rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9526634, member: 6801845"] If it's gamified then I'm thinking of the metagame not how my character would handle the situation. I go into boardgame logic mode instead of RP mode. If I earn tokens or influence points for scoring certain political wins, if I know what my political standing is with every group because there's the equivalent of a scoreboard it's not nearly as engaging. It's the issue I had with some DMs that overused (and were not flexible with) skill challenges in 4E. Too many times it felt like there was no need for me to interact with the campaign world, I would just figure out what choice made the most sense mathematically. If you don't get that I don't know how else to explain it. I know how people interact. I can model political intrigue and mysteries based on books I've read, movies or TV series I've enjoyed, not to mention real life politics. I would have no way of knowing how to resolve combat without rules. [/QUOTE]

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