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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mamba" data-source="post: 9541119" data-attributes="member: 7034611">it is the biblical record, that is why I referred to Bible passages. That the picture is newer has nothing to do with it.The Bible is not a book describing the Israelite understanding of the world in detail, but it reflects that understanding in what it describes throughout the various books, and it invariably is a flat Earth with a firmament, just like all their neighbors did believe at the time.The closest to them outright saying it is flat are probably Daniel 4:11 ‘The tree grew large and became strong And its height reached to the sky, And it was visible to the end of the whole earth.’ and Matthew 4:8 ‘Finally, the devil took Jesus to a very high mountain. He showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.’If you want to look into it, google it, as I said. Having an argument about you denying established facts is not something I am interested in, esp. something this off topic.</blockquote>