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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6453246" data-attributes="member: 67338">you know that it makes it impossible to do this kind of playtest if everyone says it had to be perfect build. keep in mind in real play not everyone makes perfect decisions...&nbsp;more like doesn't believe in them&nbsp;because a sub set of players practice one true wayism...&nbsp;and yet with a pretty random set of spells (that I did explain) was the most powerful character in the group. If you are correct (and I will assume you are) then there is a HUGE issue, and LFQW is back with a vengeance. &nbsp;it never accured to me that fly would be helpful at all, and to be honest inles they chose to run instead of fight I still don't see it. However shapechange is cool but so is time stop, and summoning spells are a bit too much work at the table for a 1 off game.the wizard was ment to be the most basic easy go to wizard...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6453246, member: 67338"] you know that it makes it impossible to do this kind of playtest if everyone says it had to be perfect build. keep in mind in real play not everyone makes perfect decisions... more like doesn't believe in them because a sub set of players practice one true wayism... and yet with a pretty random set of spells (that I did explain) was the most powerful character in the group. If you are correct (and I will assume you are) then there is a HUGE issue, and LFQW is back with a vengeance. it never accured to me that fly would be helpful at all, and to be honest inles they chose to run instead of fight I still don't see it. However shapechange is cool but so is time stop, and summoning spells are a bit too much work at the table for a 1 off game. the wizard was ment to be the most basic easy go to wizard... [/QUOTE]

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