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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 5993326" data-attributes="member: 27160">Any time you want to stop mindlessly misrepresenting what I say and putting words into my mouth, feel free to do so (cue whingeing denial...)Books don't have expectations; people do. The book does not explicitly set up any expectation, but I can see that there are some people who would be tempted to impute expectations from it. I'm saying that a little thought, on their part, would quickly reveal that this is misjudged, at best.I'll also note that you take, completely out of context, one very small excerpt from one specific book that is for an edition that is to be replaced. Other parts of that very same edition suggest that no expectation is warranted even more than a few moments of rational thought would. So; the edition warring is unwelcome and unnecessary and the point you are trying to make - that any sort of guidance for the GM or statement of design assumptions is somehow harmful or undesirable - is not only unproven but clearly inconsiderate to those who would like to have such information. *Sigh* No - I explained (yet again) how those that might conceive of such an expectation after reading the book did so only because they had not thought through the situation in even a marginal way. Could the book have been worded better to avoid unwarranted extrapolation? Yes. But people form unwarranted expectations based on what they read in books all the time - that doesn't mean the books are all wrong, it just means that people aren't using their critical mental faculties when reading.No - read what  I wrote and dismantle your strawman, please. I wasn't talking about being surprised in a general sense; I was talking about being surprised that you had designed a killer encounter (or, conversely, a total cakewalk). Next time you are surprised by a TPK remember to note how much you are liking it.</blockquote>

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