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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9060356" data-attributes="member: 23751">There is nothing in addition to those points.&nbsp; First, you're wrong.&nbsp; There is an action cost. Second, before these changes I could smite doing more damage with no action cost, no risk of silence working and no ability to be countered.&nbsp; Now those things work on smite. Further, smite wasn't broken before unless the DM broke things by not engaging the adventuring day and only having 1 or 2 encounters.&nbsp; That's not a problem with the ability.They already had that.&nbsp; They sucked without the changes that allowed their use after a hit, but that change made them usable.&nbsp; Further, they did not need to alter base smite to use those spells.&nbsp; Nor does the existence of those spells require smite to be made into a sucky ability in order to balance their use. No.&nbsp; No they didn't.&nbsp; You can buy that line if you want to, but before there was smite, and then there were smite spells which were different.&nbsp; No &quot;parity&quot; was required since they weren't supposed to be the same to begin with.&nbsp; This is a line they are giving in order to encourage people to buy into the nerf.&nbsp; And it seems that some people are snapping up what they are selling.False Equivalences are false.&nbsp; One does not equal the other.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 9060356, member: 23751"] There is nothing in addition to those points. First, you're wrong. There is an action cost. Second, before these changes I could smite doing more damage with no action cost, no risk of silence working and no ability to be countered. Now those things work on smite. Further, smite wasn't broken before unless the DM broke things by not engaging the adventuring day and only having 1 or 2 encounters. That's not a problem with the ability. They already had that. They sucked without the changes that allowed their use after a hit, but that change made them usable. Further, they did not need to alter base smite to use those spells. Nor does the existence of those spells require smite to be made into a sucky ability in order to balance their use. No. No they didn't. You can buy that line if you want to, but before there was smite, and then there were smite spells which were different. No "parity" was required since they weren't supposed to be the same to begin with. This is a line they are giving in order to encourage people to buy into the nerf. And it seems that some people are snapping up what they are selling. False Equivalences are false. One does not equal the other. [/QUOTE]

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