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<blockquote data-quote="Mirrorrorrim" data-source="post: 9065641" data-attributes="member: 7040132"><p>Love ya, Yaarel, but I've noticed a pattern of trying to pass of your homebew cosmology as fact. Like you, many of us have our own cosmological house rules for affinities between planar cosmology, energies, alignments, and spell schools. It can be fun to show off one's own cosmological affinity ideas in case others find them interesting as inspiration for their home games, but it doesn't mean they hold any water as justification for shaping the UA rules around them, because they are based on our personal homebew preferences, not official D&D lore.</p><p></p><p>I myself have a perspective on abjuration and necromancy being polarized opposites that others don't agree with. I think it is interesting for spell schools to have an affinity for (not origin of) alignments and planes. It doesn't make it D&D canon to base rule design on, though.</p><p></p><p>That said, I agree that according to 5E lore, the Astral Sea is the realm of thought and dreams. But that doesn't always jive with older edition lore. The designers are trying their best to offer an updated, codified, differentiated purpose to the different planes of the D&D Multiverse Cosmology, from the Material, Inner, Outer, Astral, Ethereal, Elemental, Feywild, and Shadowfell planes, to all kinds of other ideas. But they have a lot of old lore confusing things. Here are some rhetorical questions that I don't need answers to (but showcase some of the confusion): </p><p></p><p>Are dreams and nightmares considered thought or emotion? Are thought and emotion related or separate? Does a realm of Dreams exist in the Astral or the Feywild? Does a realm of Nightmares exist in the Astral or Shadowfell? Is the Ethereal purely a transitive plane that connects the "Inner" planes like the Elemental planes, Feywild, and Shadowfell? Does the Ethereal also connect to alternate realities and Prime Material worlds (like portrayed in the Radiant Citadel?) If it is a purely transitive plane with little ecology, why are ghosts in the Ethereal rather than the Shadowfell or an Outer Planar afterlife? If there are ghosts in the ethereal (but not other undead spirits), why? And why not other types of spirits, whether elemental, fey, undead, or other?</p><p></p><p>The Cosmology is a bit of a chaotic mess (to me it is because I expect a divinely-inspired cosmology to have balanced and recognizable purpose with balanced themes, patterns, and polarities, and we don't really have that). I suspect that you and I are people that want to make it make more sense for us. But I think that is for us to figure out for our home campaigns, rather than use as evidence to suggest changes to the core rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mirrorrorrim, post: 9065641, member: 7040132"] Love ya, Yaarel, but I've noticed a pattern of trying to pass of your homebew cosmology as fact. Like you, many of us have our own cosmological house rules for affinities between planar cosmology, energies, alignments, and spell schools. It can be fun to show off one's own cosmological affinity ideas in case others find them interesting as inspiration for their home games, but it doesn't mean they hold any water as justification for shaping the UA rules around them, because they are based on our personal homebew preferences, not official D&D lore. I myself have a perspective on abjuration and necromancy being polarized opposites that others don't agree with. I think it is interesting for spell schools to have an affinity for (not origin of) alignments and planes. It doesn't make it D&D canon to base rule design on, though. That said, I agree that according to 5E lore, the Astral Sea is the realm of thought and dreams. But that doesn't always jive with older edition lore. The designers are trying their best to offer an updated, codified, differentiated purpose to the different planes of the D&D Multiverse Cosmology, from the Material, Inner, Outer, Astral, Ethereal, Elemental, Feywild, and Shadowfell planes, to all kinds of other ideas. But they have a lot of old lore confusing things. Here are some rhetorical questions that I don't need answers to (but showcase some of the confusion): Are dreams and nightmares considered thought or emotion? Are thought and emotion related or separate? Does a realm of Dreams exist in the Astral or the Feywild? Does a realm of Nightmares exist in the Astral or Shadowfell? Is the Ethereal purely a transitive plane that connects the "Inner" planes like the Elemental planes, Feywild, and Shadowfell? Does the Ethereal also connect to alternate realities and Prime Material worlds (like portrayed in the Radiant Citadel?) If it is a purely transitive plane with little ecology, why are ghosts in the Ethereal rather than the Shadowfell or an Outer Planar afterlife? If there are ghosts in the ethereal (but not other undead spirits), why? And why not other types of spirits, whether elemental, fey, undead, or other? The Cosmology is a bit of a chaotic mess (to me it is because I expect a divinely-inspired cosmology to have balanced and recognizable purpose with balanced themes, patterns, and polarities, and we don't really have that). I suspect that you and I are people that want to make it make more sense for us. But I think that is for us to figure out for our home campaigns, rather than use as evidence to suggest changes to the core rules. [/QUOTE]
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