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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9253545" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>It lets you use Pact of the Tome not Pact of the Blade while being able to work in melee and use your charisma as your attack stat. It also gives you a ranged attack that hits hard (for a cantrip). Basically you're saving an entire Invocation and possibly a second cantrip. Which, yes, ought to do slightly less damage because Invocations are pretty valuable.</p><p></p><p>The question with your combo is how many invocations deep you want to go. With two invocations each (PotB and Agonizing Blade vs Thirsting Blade) you're right that the greenflame + agonizing + celestial combo keeps the greenflame in the fight - but the effect of most Masteries, of a magical weapon's damage boost, and of Lifedrinker and of Hex gets multiplied by the number of attacks that hit.</p><p></p><p>No you aren't. I think you're slightly of an Eldritch Blast build before level 11 (other than at level 5). By my reckoning a light crossbow is at 2d8+d6+2xCha which is very slightly ahead of 2d10+2xCha. Meanwhile with a handaxe or other basic weapon you are at d8+2d6+2xCha which is again fractionally ahead of Eldritch Blast.</p><p></p><p>You're not, even with Eldritch Blast. This is why True Strike is probably going to be nerfed from the playtest version; it outdamages Firebolt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 9253545, member: 87792"] It lets you use Pact of the Tome not Pact of the Blade while being able to work in melee and use your charisma as your attack stat. It also gives you a ranged attack that hits hard (for a cantrip). Basically you're saving an entire Invocation and possibly a second cantrip. Which, yes, ought to do slightly less damage because Invocations are pretty valuable. The question with your combo is how many invocations deep you want to go. With two invocations each (PotB and Agonizing Blade vs Thirsting Blade) you're right that the greenflame + agonizing + celestial combo keeps the greenflame in the fight - but the effect of most Masteries, of a magical weapon's damage boost, and of Lifedrinker and of Hex gets multiplied by the number of attacks that hit. No you aren't. I think you're slightly of an Eldritch Blast build before level 11 (other than at level 5). By my reckoning a light crossbow is at 2d8+d6+2xCha which is very slightly ahead of 2d10+2xCha. Meanwhile with a handaxe or other basic weapon you are at d8+2d6+2xCha which is again fractionally ahead of Eldritch Blast. You're not, even with Eldritch Blast. This is why True Strike is probably going to be nerfed from the playtest version; it outdamages Firebolt. [/QUOTE]
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