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<blockquote data-quote="Mephista" data-source="post: 9177055" data-attributes="member: 6786252"><p>You can cast plenty of Enchantments on yourself. Catnap, for example. Bless can target yourself. Stop making things up.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It absolutely does. The overwhelming majority of published spells are desgined for exploring, dungeon delving and fighting "monsters." I'm going to call BS on this objection. Especially after you made this claim earlier... about spells specifically designed for exploring. Air Bubble was literally published in Spelljammer to mimic space helmets for exploring extreme environments one finds in that setting, and you claim its not exploration. You tried to claim that Pyrotechnics wasn't a violent spell, when its literally a combat spell used to blind opponents. </p><p></p><p></p><p>"If its not published, it doesn't exist" is such an odd stance to take when it comes to spells. For example: Candlekeep Library is supposed to be filled choke full of wizard spells - the number of spells that the library contains would vastly outstrip the number of actually published spells by several magnitudes. And that's far from the only collection of wizard magic in the game. </p><p></p><p>I mean, this is something painfully obvious. Do spells just suddenly pop into existance the moment a new book is published? Of course not, they always existed in the setting but were never detailed until the book came out. </p><p></p><p>I'm not the one making claims in defiance of facts. In fact, you seem to be the one making up fake rules here. </p><p></p><p></p><p>No, you're just twisting words and cherry picking. I also said that its in the name. <strong><u><em>Dungeons</em></u></strong> and <strong><u><em>Dragons</em></u></strong>. Exploring dungeons (filled with traps and danger-puzzles, mind you!!!) and fighting monsters like dragons.</p><p></p><p>Its no secret that D&D is a very focused game.</p><p></p><p>Because you're being dismissive of any that doesn't fit your narrative. You're the one bending over backwards to justify ignoring a core book while trying to claim that non-core books from completely different editions should hold more weight. I mean, hells. Those aren't even skeletons and zombies you're talking about! The spell references the monster stats, and the MM is clear that skeletons and zombies are Evil aligned, and they're made from necrotic energy. </p><p></p><p></p><p>You're the one who brought up the real world mythology of zombies first, mate.</p><p></p><p>You know what? I'm done. Have fun with your homebrew lore at your table. I'm out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mephista, post: 9177055, member: 6786252"] You can cast plenty of Enchantments on yourself. Catnap, for example. Bless can target yourself. Stop making things up. It absolutely does. The overwhelming majority of published spells are desgined for exploring, dungeon delving and fighting "monsters." I'm going to call BS on this objection. Especially after you made this claim earlier... about spells specifically designed for exploring. Air Bubble was literally published in Spelljammer to mimic space helmets for exploring extreme environments one finds in that setting, and you claim its not exploration. You tried to claim that Pyrotechnics wasn't a violent spell, when its literally a combat spell used to blind opponents. "If its not published, it doesn't exist" is such an odd stance to take when it comes to spells. For example: Candlekeep Library is supposed to be filled choke full of wizard spells - the number of spells that the library contains would vastly outstrip the number of actually published spells by several magnitudes. And that's far from the only collection of wizard magic in the game. I mean, this is something painfully obvious. Do spells just suddenly pop into existance the moment a new book is published? Of course not, they always existed in the setting but were never detailed until the book came out. I'm not the one making claims in defiance of facts. In fact, you seem to be the one making up fake rules here. No, you're just twisting words and cherry picking. I also said that its in the name. [B][U][I]Dungeons[/I][/U][/B] and [B][U][I]Dragons[/I][/U][/B]. Exploring dungeons (filled with traps and danger-puzzles, mind you!!!) and fighting monsters like dragons. Its no secret that D&D is a very focused game. Because you're being dismissive of any that doesn't fit your narrative. You're the one bending over backwards to justify ignoring a core book while trying to claim that non-core books from completely different editions should hold more weight. I mean, hells. Those aren't even skeletons and zombies you're talking about! The spell references the monster stats, and the MM is clear that skeletons and zombies are Evil aligned, and they're made from necrotic energy. You're the one who brought up the real world mythology of zombies first, mate. You know what? I'm done. Have fun with your homebrew lore at your table. I'm out. [/QUOTE]
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