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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mephista" data-source="post: 9177221" data-attributes="member: 6786252">Not really following it - it came off as pretty silly to me as people grew more extremes on their sides.  Why is there no option to just go invisible or use illusions?  Why use mind wipes instead of Sleep?  Its an unrealistic white room scenario that I just can't take seriously.  Plus, if you're in a situation where you're either mind wiping or killing, I have to ask what's the point when spells to interrogate the dead exist.  I just can't relate to it at all.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mind reading without consent is a violation. I consider it a greater violation than tricking someone with words and a pretty face, but a lesser violation to torturing someone for info. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hold Person is more a violation than grappling someone (the feeling of losing control of your body from a taser is horrific enough), but I would consider them ethically equal in terms of ethics and morals. It would FEEL more horrific than being knocked unconscious in the moment, but probably will have less long term damage.  Death is definitely worse.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In a battle, if a wizard uses Dominate Person to make one person turn on their allies and friends, then I'm sure many people would have preferred to burn to death than mind controlled.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I consider Fear type magic to be a type of mind control, despite technically being an Illusion, and depending on the severity and use might count as torture.</li> </ul>These are all my personal opinions.</blockquote>

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