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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9210877" data-attributes="member: 23751">Nah. First, that's not how RAW works.  Not everything written by the creators is RAW.  Hell, most of it isn't rules at all, and that's even if you incorrectly view the DMG and/or MM as rules and not guidelines and stat blocks.I also refuted quite chanting thing many pages ago. Even if you can quiet chant in real life, you cannot do it to cast spells because specific beats general and we have specific rules that allow for quiet spellcasting.  Since there are specific rules that allow it, the general rule is that it is not already quiet.  I also showed how verbal had to be loud enough to be heard over a loud combat in order for counterspell to work.  You've fallen way behind the time with this.What statblock is a rule?18th!(or something.  I forget how many you're at now.)And to the point of being a Strawman.  Never said that.When did I say that?Have you missed in every splatbook where it says that they are OPTIONAL rules?  I'll quote it again for Tasha's."IT'S ALL OPTIONALEverything in this book is optional. Each group, guided by the DM, decides which of these options, if any, to incorporate into a campaign. You can use some, all, or none of them. We encourage you to choose the ones that fit best with your campaign's story and with your_ group's style of play."So show me which ones are mandatory unless I opt out.  Because those mandatory unless I opt out rules are the only ones that can be rules in my game simply by virtue of the book having been printed.  The rest are not rules in any game unless the DM opts to make them rules.Xanathar's as similarly entirely optional rules.Optional rules =/= default rules.  Default rules = used to run the game. Optional rules = rules the DM can choose to enhance the default rules when running the game.Still confused by the word optional?!? The word optional has meaning and that meaning makes everything in the splatbooks different from the PHB rules.No you don't.  You cannot opt into a default game rule.  You can only opt out.False.  A rules expansion adds new default rules.  A book of options expands nothing unless the DM chooses to bring rules in to expand the game.  Until then it's only a potential expansion of the rules.Look at it like this.  If the DM and players never buy or look at Tasha's, how has Tasha's expanded their game? A splatbook cannot expand the game by its mere existence. It can only expand the game if the DM chooses to pull things out of it to expand the game with.This is also false.  Or more accurately, a Red Herring deliberately designed to deflect from the fact that there is a major difference between opting into a rule and opting out of one.  Nobody here is discussing rules you have forgotten about.  Those forgotten rules, though, are still a default part of the system.  Um, you don't need to acknowledge splatbooks.  Or is there a rule in the PHB that requires you to acknowledge them? Please point that rule out to me.I didn't cut any rules out of the game(excepting my house ruled changes to the PHB rules).  WotC cut them out and rightly so.  The DMG is for advice to the DM, not rules on running the game. And MM stat blocks have never been rules. Stat blocks only use existing game rules.If you have a problem with all of the rules to run the game being in the PHB, take it up with them.  They are the ones who declared that.  Not me.</blockquote>

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