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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 9212184" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>A fair counterpoint. However, the rub is that the Ready action actually has some extra language here. It specifically says that</p><p></p><p>"First, you decide what perceivable circumstance will trigger your reaction".</p><p></p><p>This notion of a "perceivable circumstance" is only ever mentioned in response to the readied action, not in the broader context of reactions as a whole.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And this is a broader discussion than just counterspell. Take shield for example. Its trigger is "you are hit by an attack or targetted by the magic missile spell". Ok so magic missile....do I need to know I'm targetted, do I need to actually identify the spell to know its magic missile? Is a dumb barbarian with a ring of spell storing not able to use it for magic missile because they don't know what the spell is?</p><p></p><p>And then of course hit by an attack. Well what does a hit mean? If its a dark room and I'm blind, how do I know I got hit? In theory when you take damage....but the whole point of shield is to block the hit so you don't take damage. So is shield not usable when you can't see? And against some creatures with really weird attacks, how do I actually know they are attacking me?</p><p></p><p>There are many questions that this discussion can bring up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 9212184, member: 5889"] A fair counterpoint. However, the rub is that the Ready action actually has some extra language here. It specifically says that "First, you decide what perceivable circumstance will trigger your reaction". This notion of a "perceivable circumstance" is only ever mentioned in response to the readied action, not in the broader context of reactions as a whole. And this is a broader discussion than just counterspell. Take shield for example. Its trigger is "you are hit by an attack or targetted by the magic missile spell". Ok so magic missile....do I need to know I'm targetted, do I need to actually identify the spell to know its magic missile? Is a dumb barbarian with a ring of spell storing not able to use it for magic missile because they don't know what the spell is? And then of course hit by an attack. Well what does a hit mean? If its a dark room and I'm blind, how do I know I got hit? In theory when you take damage....but the whole point of shield is to block the hit so you don't take damage. So is shield not usable when you can't see? And against some creatures with really weird attacks, how do I actually know they are attacking me? There are many questions that this discussion can bring up. [/QUOTE]
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