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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9212366" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>The last two can't be done and still counterspell, and the point of the fake out is to make the enemy waste 3rd level or higher spell slots. Detect magic isn't a reaction so it would have to wait for the PC's next turn, and arcana checks out of turn are intended to take your reaction.</p><p></p><p>As for the first, I'd certainly require a check, but I'd probably ask for perform since it's more akin to a performance than deception. Both are valid, though.</p><p></p><p>Loudness only fails to matter if you throw logic out of the window AND ignore the natural language of 5e, the latter of which is of prime importance since it is one of the main mantras of 5e. Logic is only of importance if you want the game to make sense.</p><p></p><p>Perception is fine. What needs some reworking are the reaction rules which apparently can't rely on natural language, and so needs to spell out for folks that you need to be able to perceive(outside of the spell) the trigger. Otherwise folks just toss that logical understanding of triggers and natural language out the window(along with the baby).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 9212366, member: 23751"] The last two can't be done and still counterspell, and the point of the fake out is to make the enemy waste 3rd level or higher spell slots. Detect magic isn't a reaction so it would have to wait for the PC's next turn, and arcana checks out of turn are intended to take your reaction. As for the first, I'd certainly require a check, but I'd probably ask for perform since it's more akin to a performance than deception. Both are valid, though. Loudness only fails to matter if you throw logic out of the window AND ignore the natural language of 5e, the latter of which is of prime importance since it is one of the main mantras of 5e. Logic is only of importance if you want the game to make sense. Perception is fine. What needs some reworking are the reaction rules which apparently can't rely on natural language, and so needs to spell out for folks that you need to be able to perceive(outside of the spell) the trigger. Otherwise folks just toss that logical understanding of triggers and natural language out the window(along with the baby). [/QUOTE]
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