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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9214679" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Why isn't it a language of spellcasting? Where does it say that you can't use Infernal, Abyssal, Celestial, Sylvan, Ignan, Aquan, Terran, or Auran to cast magic? Those can all be words of mystical power, and in many traditions such languages are.Where it says an INT 3 can't? I'd offer you literally every single INT 3 creature and their lack of languages, and no reference to "understands but cannot speak" but I am going to guess you are going to look at that overwhelming evidence and declare that it doesn't matter. Because all the examples in the world don't matter unless the PHB specifically states it, right? Because evidence only matters when it agrees with you.  Fine, since you want to insist the DMG is lying, I'll address this point. Even though it is really simple if you were paying attention. Here is the text you are quoting and relying on "This book has two important companions: the Player's Handbook, which contains the rules your players need to create characters and the rules you need to run the game, and the Monster Manual, which contains ready-to use monsters to populate your D&D world." What does this say? This says that the PHB contains the rules to create characters. Is this true? Yes. This says that the PHB contains the rules to run the game. Is this true? Yes, it contains the rules for d20 rolls, attacks, skills, and many other rules to run the game. Does this say that the ONLY rules in the ENTIRE game are in the PHB? No, it doesn't say that. Does this say that NO RULES AT ALL exist anywhere else other than the PHB? No, it doesn't. It says the Monster Manual contains monsters, is this true? Yes. Does it say that NO RULES AT ALL exist in the monster manual? No, it doesn't. It doesn't say that the monster manual contains zero rules, or that it only contains guidelines that should not be followed unless you feel like it. And do you know what else this passage does not say? It does not say that the DMG lacks rules, or is only full of guidelines. So, is the DMG lying? No. The DMG says that the PHB contains the basic rules for the game and character creation and the MM contains monsters, both are true statements. YOU are being misleading trying to turn this into a statement that because the monster book is called out as containing monsters that is has zero rules, or that since the DMG isn't mentioned in the paragraph talking about the other two books, then it must contain only guidelines and nothing else.  Stop acting like rules aren't rules, just because one book was called out as holding the basic rules and the other books weren't.Well, feel free to respond now, since I've addressed your fallacious claims.</blockquote>

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