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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8750117" data-attributes="member: 6704184">Designed with a somewhat different ethos =\= incompatible. The new feats don’t have +1’s on level 1 feats, and the new races require level 1 feats specifically. That’s it. Like I suggested upthread, crits are either gonna have more context or a new general rule that makes stuff that effects monster crits work still, or the new crit rules won’t stick. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging    :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />Why not just playtest in the spirit of the playtest and provide feedback about what you think of the crit rules? Except for the explicit statements that every 5e supplement with be compatible with the new core books. The idea that Xanathar’s won’t get an update pass if any issues make it through the playtest to print is laughable. Theros? Maybe. Essentially no one cares if a given supernatural gift has a rules issue if used with a later product. But Xanathar’s and Tasha’s are going to be fully compatible. The idea that the final wording of the new grapple rules won’t solve the “ability checks to grapple” issue is…laughable. This isn’t an incompatibility with anything they’ve shown us so far, and the fact short rests still exist tells us that they…aren’t looking to get rid of them. Hypotheticals aren’t incompatibilities. That isn’t a rule. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging    :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />What your trying to prop up as incompatible is…already extant in 5e. They have explicitly said that the classes and subclasses with have their own ways of accessing spell lists. The only reason to read that as “class spell lists won’t exist anymore at all” is that one has assumed the conclusion that it will be incompatible. I think it’s patently absurd to assume the latter. It requires ignoring the last decade, and the very significant shift in focus and design ethos between 5e and all previous wotc editions, at the publishing level. It’s even more nonsensical than the doomsaying in the VTT thread.</blockquote>

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