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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jfdlsjfd" data-source="post: 8750282" data-attributes="member: 42856">Nothing precludes the Vuman to get a new background. The question was about races, so to compare one should consider everything else will be identical and, except of race choice, everything will be chosen identically.There is no tie between backgrounds and class, and no interdiction to stack languages from race and backgrounds, only stacking ASIs is forbidden. The Vuman would have Common and an additional language from his race, then proceed to select a new background that will give him an additional language, ASIs, two skills a feat and 50 gp. The Cuman will get no language from his race, one from background, his ASIs and so on exactly like the Vuman.Then all will apply the starting language step (that isn't restricted to new character races) stating that every character begins play knowing at least three languages, Common, a language provided by background and a language you choose from the Standard Languages table. At his this point the Vuman will know Common, a language (potentially a rare one) from his race, a language (potentially a Rare one) from his background, and a Standard Language from the Starting Language (Common, 2 rare, a standard) wille the Cuman will know one from background (potentially a rare one), Common (since he has no other way to learn it he gets it from the Starting Language section) and the free Standard Language in the same section. That's a "one rare language" advantage on the vuman side.The vuman would also take a new background (and will, since the new backgrounds are often better than the original, except for a few that require GM buy-in, like the military rank one), therefore gaining the exact same additional 1st level feat as the cuman from his background. Or both of them could take an original background and get no feat from it, both of them, leading to comparing only their choice of racial feat.It would have been less cluncky if they had said "here are alternative character creation rules that you can choose as block instead of the 2014 character creation rules", but this isn't their design choice. The bar about not stacking ASIs makes it clear. It leads to very suboptimal choices (such as creating a character using a new race, and an original background, resulting in getting ASIs from no source) being possible, but it is allowed.</blockquote>

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