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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 8750799" data-attributes="member: 20564">What changed:  they now are telling the truth.  That's all.  Is more needed?  Do I need a mechanical reason to hold them to the truth?  That maybe if they came out that it's not the same edition it could impact the sales of the books they have planned between now and then?  I'm pretty confused why finding the truth isn't a sufficient goal by itself, but even if it's trying to find out if they are telling the truth or lying as it will impact book sales is a major money issue - and one that incentivizes them to say it's all the same edition.We have a precedent for what looks like it's happening.  This happened already with 3.0 to 3.5.No, I keep taking the claim that it will all be compatible as bull.  I use holding them to their statement that it's going to be compatible - inherent in the declaration that it is the same edition - to highlight where they are misinforming us.It hasn't come up in this thread, but in another I stated that I like the changes.  I'm not saying this is bad.  I am just fighting for the truth, using their own statement to highlight the absurdity of the untruth.MotM I did complain about, because unlike every other change books introduced it wasn't accompanied by errata.  For example, when an earlier book changed the already-published Triton to add darkvision, the earlier books received errata about it.  So they were all in agreement and therefore the same edition.  Not so with MotM.I know you've accused me of twisting it, but go read back - several times I've said that I do expect it to be gone.  And that it being gone is part of why this is a new edition as opposed to the same edition.If everything change that comes out in the 2024 edition gets errata (unlike MotM) so that the 2014 books (with errata) and the 2024 print are the same, that's actually the same edition.  If they don't get errata, but claim it's still the current edition, then by their statement all of the un-errata'd is still in play - it hasn't been changed (errata) and it's in the current edition.It's like 4e Essentials.  You can play Essentials and original characters, picking from all the classes, races, feats, etc.  It really was a single edition even if it was a dramatic change in design philosophy.   Making a claim that it is the same edition can't support less than this, where everything from the same edition can be mixed and matched with the same edition.Again, I think it will all be gone.  And that's because it really will be an edition shift regardless what they claim.</blockquote>

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