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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 9058677" data-attributes="member: 5889">Taking this example into higher levels. The fighter once per short rest action surge generates an extra 9.5 damage with action surge. The monk can flurry twice for 6.5 x 2 = 13 damage, so the monk is actually doing EVEN MORE damage at this level.At 3rd level I would say the fighter is able to afford split mail for that +1 to AC, but the monk has gotten another 6.5 damage with another flurry of blows.At 4th level the monk gets their own +1 to AC with the ability bump. Further, the fighter has +1 damage per round (or +2 on their action surge round). The monk has gained +2 damage per round (or +3 on their 4 rounds of flurry).At 5th level the fighter is likely now able to afford full plate for another +1 to AC. The fighter now does 21 DPR with its extra attack, +21 on the action surge, and they have an AC 20. The monk has an AC 17, does 1d6 + 4 x2, 1d8 + 4, 1d4  for 26 DPR, +8.5 for each flurry.So I would argue that the Monk at levels 1-4 is honestly doing fine. They are doing MUCH more damage than the fighter in exchange for lower hps and AC (in fact its so much more honestly the fighter is looking a bit sluggish here). Its really level 5 where things become more questionable. The monk does more damage in general but its no longer a massive difference, the AC gab has lowered, the fighter's second wind continues to scale with each level. further, while the monk could flurry 5 times in a fight, many fights don't even last 5 rounds, whereas the fighter's second wind has a noticeable and powerful impact.In summary: Its not until 5th level that the Monk's effectiveness vs a shield fighter starts to come into question. They do a sizable amount more offense at levels 1-4 in exchange for some defense. At 5th, the fighter gains notable increases in AC and damage which now brings in questions to the monk's performance.</blockquote>

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