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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 9060519" data-attributes="member: 5889">Let me run my own numbers here:Against our classic orc foe.Barbarian (3rd level - THW Graze)THW Barbarian with 16 str (3rd level). No subclasses as you mentioned. If we aren't using FoB I probably won't use Rage either. We will go with a Greatsword with Graze.Assuming +5 reckless attack versus AC 15, dealing 2d6 + 3 on a hit, 3 on a miss. .0975 * 17 + .70 * 10 + .2025 * 3 = 1.6575 + 7.0 + 0.6075 = ~9.3 DPR.Monk (3rd level - Handaxe/Dagger Vex/Nick)Monk with our classic Handaxe Dagger Combo. (1d6 + 3, 1d6 + 3, 1d4). +5 to hit.05 * 10 + .5 * 6.5 + .05 * 10 + .5 * 6.5 + .45 [first vex attack misses] * (.05 * 5 + .5 * 2.5) + .55 [first vex attack hits] * (.0975 * 5 + .7 * 2.5) = .5 + 3.25 + .5 + 3.25 + 0.675 + 1.230625 = ~9.4 DPRRogue (3rd level Shortsword/Scimitar Vex/Nick)We will use our bonus action to get the advantage we need for our sneak attack. Then we will use a Shortsword/Scimitar nick combo.1d6 + 3 + 2d6, 1d6.0975 * 24 + .7 * 13.5 +  .2025 [first vex attack misses] * (.05 * 7 + .5 * 3.5) + .7975 [vex attack hits, triggers new advantage] * (.0975 * 7 + .7 * 3.5) = 2.34 + 9.45 + 0.42525 + 2.49816875 = ~14.7 DPRFighter (3rd level Dueling Longsword Flex)1d10 + 5.05 * 16 + .5 * 10.5 = 6.05 DPR<table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Class</td><td>DPR</td></tr><tr><td>Barb (Graze THF)</td><td>9.3</td></tr><tr><td>Monk (Nick TWF)</td><td>9.4</td></tr><tr><td>Rogue (Nick TWF)</td><td>14.7</td></tr><tr><td>Fighter (Flex SB)</td><td>6.05</td></tr></table>So there we go, yeah I was totally wrong. Wow, the rogue actually does great damage at 3rd level, and the monk has definitely fallen behind at this point without the expending of resources</blockquote>

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