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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Frostmarrow" data-source="post: 4161222" data-attributes="member: 1122">Being a 4onFor months my custom title has been "I'm a 4on". So far I've like most of what I've heard and I look forward to a new edition. There is stuff in 3E that I'm not enjoying at all. My dream game consists of a tight, no nonsese, tactical game (with or without minis) framed by a free form role-playing experience.Saturday brunchMe and my gaming buddies have brunch on saturdays. Usually we discuss car models, sports, global politics, and we always make room for a rather one-sided Linus vs Windows debate. As Larry finished up I took the opportunity to whip out a couple of 4E character sheets (from D&D Experience). My buddies seemed to like what they saw. We discussed basic game changes and everybody was happy. I managed to lure two of them, John and George, to our gaming den for a brief playtest.Gamers being gamersBy now it's noon and we have five hours to spare before our regularly scheduled game of WFRP: Barony of The Damned-game. Since I have two players we decide John and George will play two characters each. John chose the dwarven fighter and the tiefling warlock. George picked the halfling paladin and the human cleric. I browse the Raiders of Oakhurst Reloaded in search of the first encounter at the stone table, this being the first room in D&D Experience (from my understanding). It's a basic welcome-adventurers kind of encounter.DMing being an absolute breezeWithout any preparation and being equipped with the excellent preview material from Verys Arkon's thread I managed to present a paced and exciting game (with accurate rule details). I've got to hand this to the designers: 4E is an amazingly good tactical game. Easy to govern and action packed.In to the frayThrough a narrow winding passage the characters reached a large chamber full of kobold minions hellbent for destruction. Even though the entrance was rather crowded all characters had options an no one had to wait. The fight was rather easy. George mentioned that his characters seemed invinsible, what with the second wind and stuff. He did agree that his paladin was down on his knees but he still had the feeling that the characters were better than in previews editions. We attributed this to the new math. John had great fun mowing through minions with the dwarven fighter. Even though more monsters (with unique stats) arrived as reinforcements I found the whole thing very easy to DM. I didn't find challenge-marks cluttering the game at all. (Something I've feared it would do). However, by the end of this encounter I began feeling exhausted, almost fed up with the game. I don't know why and the players agreed that they were feeling weary too.Invinsibles getting squashedI decided to soldier on. Somehow I imagine 4E will be a short-session game. Say 3-4 hours long. Compare this to our WFRP-game were we typically go on for 6 hours or more. The initial encounter lasted two hours and I wanted to try what happens when the game turn against the players. Enter Nightscale. Young Black Dragon Solo Lurker. The alarm was raised and the party entered her lair (feauring an underground lake). Nightscale got the drop on the characters.At this time John had traded the tiefling warlock for the eladrin ranger and George traded the halfling paladin for the half-elf wizard. They fought bravely but were no match for Nightscale. Her defenses were simply to high. I think they managed to chip away some 40 hp worth of damage (of 280). Nightscale on the other hand had no trouble recharging her acid breath and use her action points to reach out and bite attacks. She tail-slashed fervently and brought down darkness on everybody. She was unstoppable. Within rounds the entire party was wiped out. But the players didn't mind at all. They liked the new saving throw mechanic and they enjoyed being humbled by a superior adversary. I found it intuitive and fun to run Nightscale as all her abilities were laid out before me in a neat, easy to read stat block. I had the means (action points) to utilise every trick she had in her repertoir.Summing upAs I said, 4E turned out to be tireing but still it was fun. When we had finished we all had a sense of weirdness. "This is not D&D. This is not role-playing at all." It was like being a wrestler and a new set of rules turned your sport into boxing. I decided there and then to cancel my pre-order. I had not expected this. We went on to play WFRP and had a blast. Still, now one day later I find myself typing the longest post I've done in ages. Why? Because I'm intrigued. There is something with 4E that makes me curious. I'm not cancelling my preorder. In fact I plan on writing an adventure for it just to explore the game further. Will D&D replace our WFRP? No. Will we still be playing D&D for the next ten years? Perhaps.</blockquote>

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