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Playtest rules vs. Core rules : What changed? And is there anyone who still prefers the Playtest rules?
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<blockquote data-quote="kenada" data-source="post: 7858601" data-attributes="member: 70468"><p>The playtest book isn’t worth the money. The playtest itself changed a lot over its duration, so the printed version isn’t even representative of what the playtest version became. The final version is very different from that. This list is not exhaustive, just what comes to mind (and what I could find quickly searching reddit):</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ancestry feats with the heritage trait were turned into heritages, which every ancestry now has.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">All classes got new options in the final version that were not in the playtest. A few are very different.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Paladin was replaced with Champion, which has options for LG, NG, and CG characters. Paladin is now just one of the options.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Proficiency bonuses were changed.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Item damage works differently (items have HP rather than take dents).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spells got buffed, and many require a basic saving throw (instead of specifying degrees of success).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Resonance is gone.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The final version uses a different approach for setting DCs (generally, setting a simple DC instead of picking a level of difficulty).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The dying rules underwent significant revision from iteration to iteration during the playtest.</li> </ul><p>If the issue is cost, the rules are available online for free at <a href="http://2e.aonprd.com" target="_blank">Archive of Nethys</a>. The <a href="https://paizo.com/products/btq01zp3?Pathfinder-Core-Rulebook" target="_blank">PDF version</a> is also very cheap and will be updated with errata when the books are reprinted. The print version is <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pathfinder-Core-Rulebook-Jason-Bulmahn/dp/1640781684/" target="_blank">currently</a> $39.30 on Amazon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kenada, post: 7858601, member: 70468"] The playtest book isn’t worth the money. The playtest itself changed a lot over its duration, so the printed version isn’t even representative of what the playtest version became. The final version is very different from that. This list is not exhaustive, just what comes to mind (and what I could find quickly searching reddit): [LIST] [*]Ancestry feats with the heritage trait were turned into heritages, which every ancestry now has. [*]All classes got new options in the final version that were not in the playtest. A few are very different. [*]Paladin was replaced with Champion, which has options for LG, NG, and CG characters. Paladin is now just one of the options. [*]Proficiency bonuses were changed. [*]Item damage works differently (items have HP rather than take dents). [*]Spells got buffed, and many require a basic saving throw (instead of specifying degrees of success). [*]Resonance is gone. [*]The final version uses a different approach for setting DCs (generally, setting a simple DC instead of picking a level of difficulty). [*]The dying rules underwent significant revision from iteration to iteration during the playtest. [/LIST] If the issue is cost, the rules are available online for free at [URL='http://2e.aonprd.com']Archive of Nethys[/URL]. The [URL='https://paizo.com/products/btq01zp3?Pathfinder-Core-Rulebook']PDF version[/URL] is also very cheap and will be updated with errata when the books are reprinted. The print version is [URL='https://www.amazon.com/Pathfinder-Core-Rulebook-Jason-Bulmahn/dp/1640781684/']currently[/URL] $39.30 on Amazon. [/QUOTE]
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