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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scott DeWar" data-source="post: 4037738" data-attributes="member: 49929">well, in real life i have seen it take a horse trainer 3 months of working with a (domestic) horse (at the minimal age of 2 years) to get saddle broke just for him...not to mention saddle broke for anyone else like the owner. Now i know that is real life and this is fantasy, so i would have to say the idea of one year would not be a bad thing, just a matter of gp s (and that is not general principles)First thing i would like to mention is that traing a wild animal requires a dc 20. if the trainer has a cha bonus of +2 that means there needs to be a +8 ranks jsut to take a 10 on training the bear cubs...i would not think that a trainer would try to train a potentialy deadly animal such as a bear unless they could "take a 10" and succeed. that would mean with a +8 ranks, there would need to be a level 5 npc (max ranks = 3 + level). so if a trainer could train the bears there would  need to be the price of a level 5 npc.keeping in mind that the phb (Skills : Handle animal) does say that domesticating a wild animal starts with a young animal, you would do likewise with the horse analagy with the foal being freshly weaned when it is being put into a starting training session.next thing i wish to point out is a place to work. if you use the dmg II rules for places of business, there would need to be an investment of 1000 for a building and about 8000 for all of the political stuff, possibly as low as 4000 if in a smaller then a town sized area.if you want to know my source on this, it would be starting on page on 180 of the dmg II.is this making any sense, or am i just yammering?</blockquote>

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