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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 4174813" data-attributes="member: 13966">Well, they'd be prepared anyway.  They have a tower of their own for now, and they would have heard us regardless of how we went about entering, unless we were such skilled climbers (not so likely at 1st-level) that we could've just quietly climbed the walls without any grappling hook or other tools.Unfortunately, I think half the party makes too much noise just moving around, so that wouldn't really be an option.  Irathias and Aramil alone would easily be overwhelmed by just 2-3 average orcs if we tried to sneak in by ourselves and then, somehow, opened the iron portcullis quietly, as if that would even be possible (not to mention that we're lean elves, not burly orcs; it'd take a while for us to lift the gate, leaving us vulnerable).If we had several buckets of water, we could've doused the fire suddenly and quickly.  Regardless, the smoke must've made it hard for orcs to see and breathe in the area around the murder holes, at least giving us a minor advantage, since we'd be charging in without breathing the smoke first.  Unfortunately, I don't recall us hearing about any river real close that we could reach without climbing, and anyhow we'd need quite a while to carve out big bowls/buckets from a log, using our daggers or whatnot.This was, relatively speaking, the fastest thing I could think of that might work.  Just charging the portcullis would've been begging to get boiling water, boiling tar, acid, or orc feces dumped on us.  What can you expect of a few 1st-level PCs far from town?</blockquote>

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