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Message: <blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5913865" data-attributes="member: 22424">It seems unlikely that either half-elves or half-orcs will be in the core. And when it comes to non-core elements, I don't particularly mind if something is included or not - half-elves are no more controversial than dragonborn; if you don't like them, don't use them.In any case, I'm afraid I can't agree with you. If we were designing the game again, I suspect I would argue for not including them (instead making them selectable traits for human characters). However, with thirty years of accumulated use, I think they now have sufficient pedigree that they should remain races in their own right.(Oh, and incidentally - count me as another who doesn't want full orcs as a PC race in the core game. Again, I don't care one way or another if they show up in the expansions, but not in the core, thanks.)</blockquote>