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<blockquote data-quote="Eosin the Red" data-source="post: 1275678" data-attributes="member: 168"><p>I had asked about this earlier but will reiterate myself here to keep current on the topic, since if you don't post apparently you are no longer allowed to have an opinion about something.</p><p></p><p>P&P threads are fated to be swallowed in GD. They are typically long and involved, often not even requiring a reply. Simply something that you read and noted. I replied to a thread 2 days ago in general since I occassionaly look at it for ideas (even though I had never posted to it before because I saw no need to post to it, it was there and I knew how to get to it) now that topic is on page 7 and it took me no small amount of searching to figure that out.</p><p></p><p>P&P is generally homebrew stuff. I might not read one of the monster posts for several days becase I don't have the time to sit still and really digest the essay, that does not mean that I don't have an interest in it or that I am lazy because I can't remember every topic that I wanted to look at when it is buried nearly 200 posts deep. If the topic was FR or GH or something similar the hordes of masses would keep the topic afloat but these little gems of personal inspiration (good and bad) will just never recieve the volume of posts that is required to stay afloat in GD. Like the rogues gallery or the story hours readership does not require replies, and like many of the RG threads good posts might only contain 5-6 replies and maybe even none at all. It does not diminish value of a posters contribution just cause the thread sinks in GD...In fact, replies have no relationship to the quality of a RG or PP thread. </p><p></p><p>I can live with the loss of P&P but hearing the folks who never used it say "tough, live with it in GD you lazy bum" is galling. We could just have one great big ENworld forum for all topics but we don't....why.... to organize things and make them easier to find. Those (apparently few) of us who used P&P feel no different than the rogues gallery folks would feel if they were outed into GD or the Story Hour folks if they were forced into the big blue of GD. Voicing those feelings to the HMF's of ENworld and getting replies of...."Quit being lazy" "You should have been checking out meta before the switch" and "I never did use them so I don't see what you are complaining about" is really petty. What does it matter to you if we voice the opinion that we lost something we like? Will it hurt you if we have P&P restored because enough people liked it and voiced that opinion? Does it somehow make your experience at ENWorld less for others to have something they like that you do not? If you feel that my being lazy is somehow something you need to personally oppose why not let us all stop being lazy and just merge all of enworld into one buzy forum? Afterall, what is the difference between looking at 18 seperate forums and looking at 18 pages of the same forum? </p><p></p><p>The calls to "lump it" by other board members is downright obnoxious. Kinda like the person who goes to the "Why I love X" thread and feels that he or she JUST HAS to post "X sucks, I hate and anyone with half a brain would also hate and here is why." Some people liked P&P and they are members of ENworld and should feel that they can speak their mind to the powers that be about the loss without being told "You should have read meta months ago" or "Quit being lazy" - since I was told how I should behave reguarding this perhaps it would be appropriate of me to tell some folks what they should do? I could probably think of something but I am afraid Eric's Grandmother would not approve. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eosin the Red, post: 1275678, member: 168"] I had asked about this earlier but will reiterate myself here to keep current on the topic, since if you don't post apparently you are no longer allowed to have an opinion about something. P&P threads are fated to be swallowed in GD. They are typically long and involved, often not even requiring a reply. Simply something that you read and noted. I replied to a thread 2 days ago in general since I occassionaly look at it for ideas (even though I had never posted to it before because I saw no need to post to it, it was there and I knew how to get to it) now that topic is on page 7 and it took me no small amount of searching to figure that out. P&P is generally homebrew stuff. I might not read one of the monster posts for several days becase I don't have the time to sit still and really digest the essay, that does not mean that I don't have an interest in it or that I am lazy because I can't remember every topic that I wanted to look at when it is buried nearly 200 posts deep. If the topic was FR or GH or something similar the hordes of masses would keep the topic afloat but these little gems of personal inspiration (good and bad) will just never recieve the volume of posts that is required to stay afloat in GD. Like the rogues gallery or the story hours readership does not require replies, and like many of the RG threads good posts might only contain 5-6 replies and maybe even none at all. It does not diminish value of a posters contribution just cause the thread sinks in GD...In fact, replies have no relationship to the quality of a RG or PP thread. I can live with the loss of P&P but hearing the folks who never used it say "tough, live with it in GD you lazy bum" is galling. We could just have one great big ENworld forum for all topics but we don't....why.... to organize things and make them easier to find. Those (apparently few) of us who used P&P feel no different than the rogues gallery folks would feel if they were outed into GD or the Story Hour folks if they were forced into the big blue of GD. Voicing those feelings to the HMF's of ENworld and getting replies of...."Quit being lazy" "You should have been checking out meta before the switch" and "I never did use them so I don't see what you are complaining about" is really petty. What does it matter to you if we voice the opinion that we lost something we like? Will it hurt you if we have P&P restored because enough people liked it and voiced that opinion? Does it somehow make your experience at ENWorld less for others to have something they like that you do not? If you feel that my being lazy is somehow something you need to personally oppose why not let us all stop being lazy and just merge all of enworld into one buzy forum? Afterall, what is the difference between looking at 18 seperate forums and looking at 18 pages of the same forum? The calls to "lump it" by other board members is downright obnoxious. Kinda like the person who goes to the "Why I love X" thread and feels that he or she JUST HAS to post "X sucks, I hate and anyone with half a brain would also hate and here is why." Some people liked P&P and they are members of ENworld and should feel that they can speak their mind to the powers that be about the loss without being told "You should have read meta months ago" or "Quit being lazy" - since I was told how I should behave reguarding this perhaps it would be appropriate of me to tell some folks what they should do? I could probably think of something but I am afraid Eric's Grandmother would not approve. :) [/QUOTE]
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