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<blockquote data-quote="Thunderfoot" data-source="post: 3554798" data-attributes="member: 34175">I believe you are in error, but only in your assessment of the outcome.&nbsp; Yes, indedd at Agincourt the peasants took French nobles prisoner, mostly because the English knights were not really present (as stated earlier, most were on their way back to England) and the majority of the troops at Agincourt were English longbowmen and men-at-arms.&nbsp; There was no one AVAILABLE to take the French knights captive other than the peasantry.However, I do believe that the nobility was then turned over to the care of the King, who requested ransom in the name of the throne.The other major error I see is the number of troops quoted.&nbsp; Knights, men-at-arms and other 'elite' troops were just that elite.&nbsp; The majority of armies that fought until the 2nd crusade were yoemanry, peasants and the like.&nbsp; Bows, crossbows, polearms and such lightly armored (padded usually, if anything) and rarely a shield among them.&nbsp; Daggers were more plentiful than swords and a long dagger was a mighty sidearm.&nbsp; Of course in context of fantasy, this doesn't work because any local peasant can afford leather and sword after a couple of years of farming.&nbsp; The fantasy economy doesn't scale correctly.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thunderfoot, post: 3554798, member: 34175"] I believe you are in error, but only in your assessment of the outcome. Yes, indedd at Agincourt the peasants took French nobles prisoner, mostly because the English knights were not really present (as stated earlier, most were on their way back to England) and the majority of the troops at Agincourt were English longbowmen and men-at-arms. There was no one AVAILABLE to take the French knights captive other than the peasantry. However, I do believe that the nobility was then turned over to the care of the King, who requested ransom in the name of the throne. The other major error I see is the number of troops quoted. Knights, men-at-arms and other 'elite' troops were just that elite. The majority of armies that fought until the 2nd crusade were yoemanry, peasants and the like. Bows, crossbows, polearms and such lightly armored (padded usually, if anything) and rarely a shield among them. Daggers were more plentiful than swords and a long dagger was a mighty sidearm. Of course in context of fantasy, this doesn't work because any local peasant can afford leather and sword after a couple of years of farming. The fantasy economy doesn't scale correctly. [/QUOTE]

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