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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 6397742" data-attributes="member: 1879">Not really the same speed. I've seen a man using a light crossbow put 9 quarrels into a target in 30 seconds. Armies using muzzle loaders thought 4 rounds a minute was good speed, crack troops might get 5. A heavy crossbow might be the same speed if you consider a hvy x-box to be a windlass operated arbelast. If you think a hvy x-bow only needs a goat's foot to span it, then it should still be faster than a muzzle loader. Probably about the same speed as a breechloading pre-cartidge gun though.Don't get hysterical. The scatter mechanic is powerful but hardly game breaking. It can get ugly in the hands of a rogue however. I would probably add a line to the effect that the extra die is added after the dice are doubled by a crit however. As for why you would ever need a melee weapon, because after you've fired it you have a club. Still, it is very powerful, and a 6 second reload is impossibly fast for a muzzle loader. Also, are these supposed to be matchlocks? Wheel locks? Flint locks? For sanities sake I'd probably assume flintlocks and add some rules. Reloading takes 3 actions, and while reloading your foes have advantage on melee attacks against you. Rifling should add one extra action to the loading time. If you want to make them as hazardous as the real thing then double ones (on disadvantage OR advantage) means the gun deals it's damage to the wielder and is useless untill repaired. - Well you kind of have that under the lethal heading, I missed that. But a critical miss is not a defined term, I'd call it out as rolling a one, or double ones.Just my 2¢</blockquote>

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