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<blockquote data-quote="Hackenslash" data-source="post: 1031685" data-attributes="member: 11770"><p><strong>Interesting Idea !!!</strong></p><p></p><p>Thanks for the replys: Seems I have to go back to the drawing board, but I still feel like there is something missing from crossbows. They are definitely the poor relations of normal Bows. I am not sure that I subscribe to the "simple weapon theory" as cross bows were invented way after the Bow to counteract the threat of plated armor etc...so if anything they are the more complex weapon. Maybe easier to use for the inexperienced but by no means simple. I am inclined to go with Obryn's theory in that they could have the old vs Armor pluses from the 1st edition. OR Maybe the secondary Bab Bonus might work but would not allow the user to get any extra benefit for a while. No I think in general I would like an immediate bonus available from 1st level, so maybe an extra few points of damage and the Armor penetration ability, would do nicely, after all it will only ever be one attack a round anyway with the current rulings on loading crossbows etc. So I think my revised crossbow damage would be as follows:</p><p></p><p>Heavy CrossBow : 2d6 : +4 Armor Penetration Bonus to hit armor wearing characters, if AC is not from armor then no bonus applys.</p><p></p><p>Light CrossBow : 1d10 : +2 Armor Penetration Bonus to hit armor wearing characters, if AC is not from armor then no bonus applys.</p><p></p><p>Hand CrossBow : 1d6 : +1 Armor Penetration Bonus to hit armor wearing characters, if AC is not from armor then no bonus applys.</p><p></p><p>*Note. Opponents of the Crossbow wielding character must be wearing actual physical armor for the wielder to get the armor penetration bonus. Dexterity and Magic armor or sheild bonuses from spells and other such effects like deflection bonuses would not be effected by the Crossbow Armor Penetration Bonus. However the crossbow would still get it's armor penetration bonus against Magically enhanced armor or shields, eg. Full Plate. +2.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hackenslash, post: 1031685, member: 11770"] [b]Interesting Idea !!![/b] Thanks for the replys: Seems I have to go back to the drawing board, but I still feel like there is something missing from crossbows. They are definitely the poor relations of normal Bows. I am not sure that I subscribe to the "simple weapon theory" as cross bows were invented way after the Bow to counteract the threat of plated armor etc...so if anything they are the more complex weapon. Maybe easier to use for the inexperienced but by no means simple. I am inclined to go with Obryn's theory in that they could have the old vs Armor pluses from the 1st edition. OR Maybe the secondary Bab Bonus might work but would not allow the user to get any extra benefit for a while. No I think in general I would like an immediate bonus available from 1st level, so maybe an extra few points of damage and the Armor penetration ability, would do nicely, after all it will only ever be one attack a round anyway with the current rulings on loading crossbows etc. So I think my revised crossbow damage would be as follows: Heavy CrossBow : 2d6 : +4 Armor Penetration Bonus to hit armor wearing characters, if AC is not from armor then no bonus applys. Light CrossBow : 1d10 : +2 Armor Penetration Bonus to hit armor wearing characters, if AC is not from armor then no bonus applys. Hand CrossBow : 1d6 : +1 Armor Penetration Bonus to hit armor wearing characters, if AC is not from armor then no bonus applys. *Note. Opponents of the Crossbow wielding character must be wearing actual physical armor for the wielder to get the armor penetration bonus. Dexterity and Magic armor or sheild bonuses from spells and other such effects like deflection bonuses would not be effected by the Crossbow Armor Penetration Bonus. However the crossbow would still get it's armor penetration bonus against Magically enhanced armor or shields, eg. Full Plate. +2. [/QUOTE]
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